Jan 15, 2014; Orlando, FL, USA; Chicago Bulls point guard Derrick Rose (middle) and center Joakim Noah (13) before the game against the Orlando Magic at Amway Center. Mandatory Credit: Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports

NBA Rumors: Derrick Rose! Linked To...Everything!

NBA:Rumors. I’ve been writing for months and for some reason, these two words bring more attention to an article than any word in a title I can think of. With that being said, Pippen Peoples, you are wondering what NBA rumor is connected to Derrick Rose this time? It’s not about what rumor is connected to D-Rose because ALL of the rumors are connected to Derrick Rose indirectly…ALL OF THEM!

Now that Carlos Boozer is 95% out of Chicago as of this writing (trade or amnesty, who knows?) Derrick Rose will take his spot as the most polarizing figure in a Chicago Bulls uniform. By far. I’ve read many posts about Rose and I’ve paid particular attention to the comments about Rose.

I’ve pretty much tried to steer clear of writing about Derrick Rose because he’s been on the sidelines and I might have made a mistake here.

The mistake: how much an impact Derrick Rose has on the Bulls, whether he plays or not. Derrick Rose, right now is basically holding up progress in what direction the Bulls are going to go this summer.

Right now, I can honestly tell you Pippen Peoples, that I have no idea where the Bulls are going this summer. No one does. Let’s take a look at what the Bulls have stated they will do in the last six months alone…

1) They were going to bring Nikola Mirotic over.

2) They made an offer to Kevin Love for a trade.

3) They are making concessions to get Carmelo Anthony.

4) They were discussing trading their two first round picks to move up to get a shooter.

This is a lot of directions being “leaked”. Obviously to get free agents they have to part with a lot of assets (two first round picks, Taj Gibson and Jimmy Butler if the GM has a inkling of a clue) to get them. Either way the Bulls have to have one main ingredient, Derrick Rose HAS to stay healthy.

I’ve been accused recently of being the biggest assumer. Nope I’m not. Let me tell you some people who are bigger assumers than me.

Jerry Reinsdorf is a bigger assumer than me.

Because he is on the hook to pay Derrick Rose $94 million dollars. Even though he hasn’t played in forever, he still owes the man $60 million.

Gar Forman and John Paxson are bigger assumers than me.

They have to make moves to build around a guy that they have to believe is going to stay healthy.

Tom Thibodeau is a bigger assumer than me.

He has to plan a season believing that a healthy Derrick Rose will be able to lead this team ON THE COURT!

A whole lot of Bulls fans are bigger assumers than me.

They will get angry every time this touchy subject comes up. They will all come together to fight the “Rose haters” out there.

You would be very surprised that “Rose haters” are starting to gain a lot of steam with their frustrations about the lack of production on the court. There are others that will stand by  Derrick Rose to the end. This is particularly why I love Chicago Bulls fans. We may not agree all the time but they are passionate. Well, with that being said, let’s talk about the real “Red Bull” in the room Derrick Rose.

I read an article on CBSSports.com by a writer named James Herbert. Check out the title…

Report: Bulls want to improve ‘at any cost,’ only Derrick Rose untouchable.

The first paragraph goes like this…

The Chicago Bulls “are looking to improve the starting lineup at any cost” and only Derrick Rose is untouchable in trade discussions, according to Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times:

“They are looking to exhaust as many assets as it will take.” one source said of general manager Gar Forman and head of basketball operations John Paxson.

When I read this the only thing I could come up with is “Come on man!”

First off any Bulls fan that believes anything that comes out of these two guys mouth that has anything to do with ‘any cost’ did not watch the Bulls personnel moves (or lack thereof) the last six months. Spending money in the context they are using is like me going to the drug store to look for hair brushes. Doesn’t make sense. The Bulls are notoriously cheap and I’m bald. Let’s clear up this rumor real quick, these two are lying through their collective teeth. Any cost means any cost. If that was the case, the Bulls would have done SOMETHING in February at the trade deadline. Don’t believe the hype.

It’s the second part of the title that interested me. The Derrick Rose is untouchable in trade discussions.

Umm yeah. I might be missing something here, forgive me if I am. But what NBA team would trade for a guy that has been on the shelf for the better part of two years and is still owed around $60 million dollars? I like input so tell me. There’s a comment section at the bottom of the page. Pippen Ain’t Easy has a Facebook page. Enlighten me please. With that being said, whoever theoretically takes him in a trade would basically gut their squad for a player that may or may not bounce back to form. So let’s clear up another rumor, Derrick Rose is going absolutely nowhere. Not because the Bulls want and need him, it’s because that contact is unmovable. Period.

Speaking of that contract, that is what is so frustrating about all that goes on with the Bulls future right now going into the NBA draft and free agency. The franchise has  to consider Rose in any decision going forward. The contract eats up salary cap space so it limits the flexibility in obtaining a big time free agent (Carmelo Anthony or Kevin Love) no check that, how about any free agent. Look folks, no matter if the Bulls get one of these two players or not. The Bulls still have to fill the roster with players to support them off the bench. Think that’s not important? Why don’t you go to South Beach and talk to LeBron and Co. I bet they can school some folks on how important it is to have a decent bench. You think Noah’s and Rose’s knees might need a rest from time to time next year?

Derrick Rose’s future is tied indirectly in how the Bulls draft on Thursday night. What the Chicago Bulls really need is front court help that provides depth to Joakim Noah and Taj Gibson. This is definitely a need if the Bulls pull the trigger and get rid of Carlos Boozer. Call him a bum if you want but the Bulls still need to figure out how to replace 13 points and eight rebounds a game. Greg Smith was brought in last year to provide help for next year but…so?

If the Chicago Bulls are so sure that Derrick Rose is going to come back better than ever, then why is Gary Harris, Shabazz Napier or Tyler Ennis (who I like)  on the Bulls draft board? Deep down, even the Bulls are weary of Rose’s knees right now. They’re not hating, they’re just smart.

The Bulls have plenty of other needs that they can fill. First off they need a two guard. Jimmy Butler could be better served being moved over to the wing and put Mike Dunleavy on the bench. Jimmy Butler has been chasing the wing players all year anyway and he does not have the shooting ability to stay at the shooting guard position. He is basically doing Luol Deng’s job, give him the title.

It’s common knowledge that no one knows what goes on in the minds of Gar Forman and John Paxson. They keep their business locked up like Fort Knox. Only this time, they have no choice. Their business is locked into the two knees of Derrick Rose.

Tags: 2014 NBA Draft Carlos Boozer Chicago Bulls Derrick Rose Gar Forman John Paxson NBA Free Agency

  • Michael Cunningham

    I wondered why the Bulls would draft a pg too. Sign DJ Augustin and hope for the best w/ Rose. Rose is still a cash cow even though he’s riding the bench in street clothes. His merchandise sells are top 5 in the league which is remarkable for a guy who’s been MIA for two yrs….Question: If the Bulls should sign Melo or Love how are they suppose to grasp Thibodeau’s defense? It’s supposed to be too complex for any rookie to understand, so isn’t that like teaching old dogs new tricks?

  • Dee

    The Lakers would trade for DRose. I mean they’re already thinking about drafting Imbeed if he falls to 7. They pay for stars, even if they’re hurt. Just look at how much they paid Kobe.

  • ShadowXL

    Derrick Rose is being punished for being too cocky and arrogant. What do I mean? Last offseason, after the Heat had won the Finals, Rose was asked who he thought the best player in the NBA was… His reply, “Derrick Rose”. For people who think Rose is all that, you’re FOOLING yourselves. The man hasn’t played significant NBA minutes for the better part of 2 years, and for the 10 games he did play, he looked like shell of his former self.

    Derrick Rose SUCKS! Not because he had an injury and not because I’m hating, he sucks because too cocky and arrogant to that if he doesn’t change his style of play, he’ll get injured… AGAIN! And the Bulls will be handcuffed to the rest of that $90 million deal for a player who they thought would be great, but ended up being useless.

    • Chris w.

      Your an idiot. Thas all that needs to be said.

      • ShadowXL

        I’m an idiot… Sure, if that’s what makes you live with the fact that Derrick Rose still sucks. Don’t get me wrong: he a good, talented player. But he’s proven not to be worth the $90 million paycheque he’s owed. Thank God I’m not a Bulls fan.

        • Chris w.

          “D rose sucks…but he’s a good talented player”… OK please stop talking now u sound stupid. U just stated that u DONT EVEN FOLLOW THE BULLS.

    • Leroy Boyd

      Lol you cant be serious what athlete is going to admit that someone is better than themselves?

      If he said somone was better you would be saying he lacks confidence. I see you are a Rose hater it would have more basis for your attack if you admit you dont give a shit about Rose but to say he sucks because he is cocky man please any athlete in any sport is cocky. Man you never saw MJ Bird Bron Melo Iverson Kobe Wilt chamberlain play they were all cocky.

      Rose useless damn I have heard it all so what team do you follow I know its not the Bulls

      • ShadowXL

        I’m not a Rose hater, I just don’t follow the Bulls. The difference between D. Rose and MJ, LBJ, Magic, Bird, Iverson, Kobe, Chamberlain and Melo (sorta) is that they say they’re the best and they prove it. Iverson always played hurt… MJ played thru injuries, Kobe hit two freebies and walked off the court with a torn Achilles…. I could go on. Last year’s playoffs, Rose was cleared to play, didn’t even make an effort to try to play in one game VS the Heat. So yeah, useless and no heart. As Iverson once said: “There’s a fine line between confidence and cockiness. It’s not being cocky of you can’t back it up.”

        And yes, Rose is useless if he doesn’t change his style of play. Because he WILL reinjure himself if he doesn’t. And that would be a waste.

        As for the teams I rep, it’s Raptors, Heat and Spurs all day, everyday!

        • Leroy Boyd

          You may not want to say it but you are a Rose hater man up and admit it. All those players you mention none of them had any injuries similar to Rose. For your information because Rose was cleared to play big deal dont you think he has insight to how his body felt and to think you sre harping on a player because doctors said he could pkay and the player didnt come on man how many times have you bern given the do and dont and you did what you thought was best for you?

          Rose is useless if he does not change his style of play? Have you ever played badketball? Who do you expect him to play like Chalmers, Felton, Rubio I mean you think he is going to change if you think that you know very little about basketball.

          Now as for you being a follower of 3 NBA teams I am from Chicago and we call that bandwagon. When they play each other whoare you for?

          Who gives a shit about what Allen Iverson had to say. I mean who quotes Allen Iverson? Who does that I mean if it’s not his rant about practice what else has he said that impacts anything?

          So you watch the heat and spurs battle who did you want to win and please dont give me that lame answer I didnt care.

          • ShadowXL

            I’m actually not a Rose hater. I just don’t respect any player that can’t back up their mouth.

            I’ve played basketball, and know what it’s like to have knee injuries. Part of you wants to protect your body at all cost… The other part wants get back on the court at all costs. And for a player like Rose, he can afford the risk with that $90 million paycheque.

            And yes, Rose is useless if he doesn’t change his style of play. His career would be in serious jeopardy should he continue to play the way he does. It puts too much stress on the knees and with two back-2-back knee surgeries, I don’t think he wants to go thru that again. I’m not comparing him to Chalmers or anything, I’m just saying that it’s a shame and waste when any player’s career is cut short due to injury. He needs to learn how to adapt his game in such a way that takes pressure off his knees.

            And I believe that is a top 15 player of all time, pound for pound one of the best period. Show the man some love, after all, we sitting here talkin bout practice…

            As for my team affiliations, I am by no means a bandwagoner. It’s simple: I’m from Toronto, and will always ride and die by the boys in red white and black #WeTheNorth! I’ve been a fan of LBJ since 2007 (same as Rose, he had to earn my respect) and I’ve always liked the Heat since the Mourning days. As for the Spurs, they are the most impressive team I’ve seen since Jordan’s Bulls (the last Bulls team I followed). How can you not be a fan of the Spurs? But Toronto is #1 in my books… If it came down to it, I’d take Raptors over any team.

            As for the Finals, I was hoping for a 3 peat. I really wanted LBJ to get it

          • Leroy Boyd

            You wont admit it but you dislike Rose. The idea that you think he should change the way he plays indicates that you care about what you think rather than watch him come off these injuries and play. Hell he can walk down Michigan Ace and break his leg.

            So you have had a ACL tear and a meniscus tear as well? So you are giving Derrick Rose advice when he has the best doctors telling him other wise? How will he take pressure ofc his knees?

          • ShadowXL

            LOL… You can call me a Ross hater all you want, it doesn’t make it true…

            I never said I had an ACL or meniscus tear, I said I’ve dealt with knee injuries, thank God none that serious. And I’m not one to play doctor and say what the best treatments are. All I said was should he continue to play the way he does, Rose will destroy his knees. You might be too busy riding on Rose’s nuts to get what I’m saying, cause it’s not hate. I actually want to see the man prove me wrong. So far tho, he’s proving to be a flash in the pan star

          • Chris w.

            This dudes changing his story story now that he feels dumb. Did u not say anything bout him being cleared to play? Did u not say anything about him sucking because he’s arrogant and cocky? You didn’t start saying he needs to “change his style” until after Leroy made u feel stupid. Just a dumb Internet troll who came here to hate on d rose.

          • Leroy Boyd

            Well I see you have let me know I am talking to a damn child or teenager with that comment I am riding his nuts because I dont think he has to change his game.

            Get what you are saying you aint saying shit but Rose should change his game because of the way he plays I say he should not and continue to play his way. In fact if he scare he should retire and knowing anything about Rose he aint going out that way. He is going to come back and play with the skills he has and if you or anyone thinks he should change thats on you and if they way he plays causes his career to end so be it its his career not yours. Furthermore even though you have about as much mefical knowledge about Rose knees as some shithead who thinks he can swim Lake Michigan buck naked and not get wet.

          • ShadowXL

            Whatever you say boss… Keep telling yourself D. Rose fairy tales. What do I know? I’m only a child who worked at TSN and covered all NBA related material…

            Having an opinion against your favourite player doesn’t make me a hater or an internet troll. It just makes me a man with a valid opinion that differs from yours. And in humble opinion, Derrick Rose is brash, cocky and arrogant, and despite being a former MVP, he has done little in the past 3 years since to prove that he deserves to be considered one of the greats, injury or no injury. His style of play is as such that he is prone to injury, as the last 3 seasons have proved. And if you have a problem with me “hating” on Rose, I hope he’s healthy enough to prove me wrong. So, continue to believe that Rose is the greatest player since MJ. Cause in Toronto where I’m from, you kinda have to play and have the stats to back up that claim. And Rose has only played 10 games in the last 2 years… Just saying.

          • Leroy Boyd

            Fairy tales because I believe he will play like he always did come on whats fairy about that? Your opinion dont mean shit its no more important than mines. Who gives a shit where you worked that don’t impress me as if because you covered the NBA you have an opinion and like I said it has no more value than anyone else on here.

            I find that you ate harping on my opinion like yours is God sent and you are totally correct and mine opinion about Rose is horseshit.

            So you think Rose is cocky, brash and arrogant that again is your opinion I am sure if I say I don’t think that of him you will think my opinion is horseshit. Please get over yourself on here it does not matter who the heck you are or where you have worked or work it means absolutely nothing and for you to think your opinion is truth and anyone that disagrees with you dont know what the shit they are talking about.

            I dont know where you get the idea that you think his style of play is injury prone. He has been playing like that since 6th grade now he suddenly injury prone and should change his game? Who should he play like tgat would satisfy you?

            I dont know where you got the thought in your mind that anyone thinks Rose can come in the same gymwith MJ and as for Toronto requires please who gives a shit what you Canadians think about basketball I believe if we were talking hockey I could understand you but the idea that Rose or any Bull fan gives a rats Azz what you think is crazy. Your opinion means something to you but it appears that if someone has a different opinion we are star struck, holding nuts and you have to throw in where you work in order to prove you know what you are talking about. My resume is deep into sports but that dont make my opinion no better than yours. Its just an opinion its like ass holes everybody got one

          • Chi Town’s Finest

            Ain’t no need to cuss at dude Leroy. ShadowXL does have a point. I’m curious to see what happens with Rose, cause the fact remains that he is holding our team back.

          • ShadowXL

            Finally, someone with some sense… Finest, you know what’s up.

          • Chi Town’s Finest

            I’m not gonna sit here and pretend that this isn’t a serious situation. Rose hasn’t played in 2 years. Which means that his top 5 merch sells does jack for the on court product. We need the Bulls to win, and if Rose isn’t on the floor to help us win banner #7, then we may have to cut our losses. Rose is great and all, but he needs to be best on court, not the best on the sidelines.

          • ShadowXL

            EXACTLY! Rose needs to back up that mouth and at least reach the Finals. LBJ did.. KD did… Melo and Rose need to do it now. Pressure is on them

  • Wilson Williamson

    Ron, I enjoy your articles, but I have one question. With a column titled. “Pippin ain’t easy,” why do you have MJ’s jersey in the background and not, say…Pippin’s? (Not sayin’…just sayin.) MJ was great…but is gone. Pippin is a Bull’s ambassador. Just curious. And as far as Derrick Rose, if he’s a team player, (and I’m not going to bring up the I don’t recruit thing, even though I think he had a hand in bringing back Captain Kirk) and he knows that his team is strapped for cash.I don’t know if it’s possible on NBA guidelines as it is in the NFL..but how about restructuring his contract to allow his team more financial flex, to bring in Melo and not sacrifice a Taj Gibson. Big stars do it all the time. So why doesn’t Rose put on his big boy pants and take one for the team. Maybe he wants to…but Reggie won’t let him!

  • Noire Heart Jay

    I’m a Bulls fan I think D Rose should take a pay cut he haven’t played in 2 years if he want to win that would be the quickest way to help the team and give them more flexibility in trades and free agency. Amnesty Boozer keep Taj DJ and Jimmy Buckets for D sign Mello , trade for Afalo and continue to draft good to fill in the gaps. Noah ,Taj ,Mello , Afalo , and Rose woud be my starters with Jimmy being the back up for Mello lack of d. Still have Dj and Kirk jus would need a solid big that can back up Noah and Taj and one to be the enforcer you know the foul man lol.

    • Leroy Boyd

      You are living in a dream world thinking any player is going to take a pay cut of a already signed contract wont happen with any player. To suggest that Rose should is crazy.

      trade who for Affalo? What do the Bulls have besides draft picks that the magic would want?

      Secondly resign DJ you think the Bulls have the money to sign Melo and DJ and add Affalo’s salary? Even with your idea of Rose taking a cut what do you expect that cut amount should Rose take?

    • ShadowXL

      You know what you’re talking about Jay. I doubt that Rose will take a pay cut (he really should), but the Bulls should do what they need to do and not worry so much about Rose, unless he comes back strong next year (I really doubt that he will)

  • Fernandogms

    Instead of talking bullshiet Stop Hating because maybe LeBron is the best player but seriously

    Admit that the style of play of D. Rose motivates any fan ! and enjoy baseball he is nasty !!
    NBA needs Him !!

  • Chi Town’s Finest

    I don’t know why Leroy Boyd is getting upset with ShadowXL… All shadow did was state what already know, that D. Rose hasn’t played in two year. It’s not like Chi Town really needs him anyway… If we can upgrade him for Melo or someone else, Chicago would be foolish not to jump on that. The way Rose is now is kinda like Grant Hill: great player, bad luck with injury. Don’t want to see that happen to Rose, but I think ShadowXL is right. I hope Rose can get back to 100% but he’s gonna have to take it easy. We can’t afford another season without Rose playing, cause it would be a waste.

    • Leroy Boyd

      Why I got upset maybe you should read the entire conversation and you will see why I got upset. Furthermore if you think saying the word shit is cursing I have to question if you are really from Chicago. I know saying shit in Chicago is like saying hello in Canada. If you are from Chicago you know real cursing all you have to do is walk on the streets of the city.

      I guess when somebody tells you that you are holding somebody’s nut sack that’s cool with you but it aint cool with me.

      So you think he has a point about Rose? Here we go again so my point means absolutely nothing that I think he will come back and be as good as he was before the injuries.

      Rose has nowhere near the injuries that Grant Hill had I suggest you do your resesrch before you link him to Hill. Secondly dont you think before he plays that the smart thing is to wait and see before going all downbeat on what you think will happen to him.

      The guy has recovered and all this is nothing but speculation and who you think is right is just your opinion and it has about as much weight with me as some dude trying to run across the Dan Ryan at 5pm thinking he can get across both sides snd not get hit by some car, truck or train.

      • Chi Town’s Finest

        Dude, I’m basing my analysis on his 10 game performance last season. Rose looked… Not like Rose. Then when he did start looking like himself, he got injured. I only used Grant Hill as an example cause it was a string of bad luck injuries that did in Hill.

        As for your beef with ShadowXL, why you gonna let one guy’s opinion upset you? End of the day, he don’t pay your bills… And neither does D. Rose (unless you work for the Bulls organization). It’s not worth calling out an entire country just cause you vex with one man… You end looking like a fool (and based on your argumentation, you’re far from that)

        Chi Town all day baby!

        • ShadowXL

          Well said… All I can say is that the Bulls are at crossroads again. They seem to have trouble with point guards, but at least Rose played some meaningful basketball thus far. Last time Bulls had this much injury trouble with a PG was when they drafted Jay Williams… That was really unfortunate.

          That’s not to say that Rose is heading in the same direction (off court injuries and on court injuries are 2 different things), but it would really suck if this were a lingering issue for the Bulls. Cause if and when it happens again, and I really hope it doesn’t, the questions surrounding the Bulls will be “how are they gonna get rid of Rose?” That’s the reality.

          • Chi Town’s Finest

            I wouldn’t necessarily compare the two ShadowXL. I see where you’re coming from tho. Williams was an idiot for riding a motorcycle into a pole to end his career before it even really got started. That set us back lightyears.

            I don’t know how effective Rose will be coming off another knee injury, but as loyal Bulls fan and season seat holder, I don’t want to see the same crap as the past two years. Something needs to give and Rose NEEDS to produce or just let the Bulls trade him.

          • ShadowXL

            Agreed. If you can’t perform, let your team do what’s necessary and don’t handcuff them.

        • Leroy Boyd

          So you are saying what Rose did for ten games you can determine what he will do this coming season? I dont know how you determine I have a beef with shadow because I disagree with his opinion? I think you are ASSuming why would you think I was upset because I used the word shit several times man get a grip. I think you are as weak as your thought that I would have a beef with someone who I disagree with. Furthermore I dont know you but if I told you to stop holding o to someone’s nut sack would tbat offend you? I look like a fool there you go sneaking in a slap at me I dont know you and you dont know me but to call me a fool I dont know what part of Chicago you are from but telling someone to hold yiur nut sack and a fool would get your ass handed to you. I find that you are riding other people’s conversation and interjecting what and who you think is right is your right but to try to down grade me when you sucking up for someone who can defend themselves.

  • Lee Page

    My thought on the Chicago Bulls is this, we made it to the playoffs with outstanding defense. In order for us “Da Bulls” to snatch one of the big names in free agency we would have to give up two of the league’s top defensive players of last year in Taj Gibson and Jimmy Butler. Which both are young raw talent, with a promising career ahead of them.

    I don’t think it make a whole lot of sense for us to trade two to three very solid players for one shoot first I’m getting up there in age Carmelo Anthony. Don’t get me wrong I would love to have melo in my starting five, but if it cost us the heart of Taj Gibson and Jimmy Butler we shouldn’t pay it. Not to mention we do have two top twenty picks in this up coming draft,
    thats just filled with shooters!