KG: Got the Ring, Still No Class

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Shortly after Derrick Rose was mugged by Kendrick Perkins after Rose beat him to a missed shot for an offensive rebound, there was Rajon Rondo swooping into to try and decapitate Brad Miller.

Rondo’s slashing hand came nowhere near the ball. It slammed into Miller’s neck and face. It was clearly a flagrant foul, but that was not the call. Miller ended up bloody, and surely dazed. He had to try and get it together quickly to attempt 2 free throws to tie the game. He missed the first, and there was Kevin Garnett clearly seen yelling at Miller that he was a choker.

Garnett is either dim-witted, particularly mean-spirited or both.

First, it’s hardly choking if you miss a free-throw after being the recipient of a flagrant foul like Miller was. Second — and someone might want to remind KG about this — you are the World Champions playing a team that was .500 on the year. They have already beaten you on your own floor. The series was tied at 2. And yet you have the gall to get on your high-horse and yell choke? You’re excited about that? You and your team should be humbled by your performance, not puffing out your chest and yelling things at the Bulls. You’d think a vet like KG would consider that the Bulls should be nowhere near sniffing a series win. But you get your hoot and holler on, KG.

I’ve got news for him and the rest of Boston: the Bulls have already won and you have already lost, regardless of who enters the 2nd round of the playoffs. That much is clear. But there is Garnett — not even playing — hollering ridiculous taunts from the bench and making those non-intimidating (save for Glen Davis) contorted faces. Look crazy Bro. They’ll think you’re so tough. The truth is, Aaron Gray currently has more license to do those things than you do. All it really does is make you look like an idiot.

Maybe it’s also a feeling of inferiority on Garnett’s part. After all, I’d go ahead and guess that Michael Jordan would be playing with a bone spur. Not exactly Willis Reed, are you KG? Speaking of Michael, he not only saved his talk for when he was actually playing, he took on Mourning, Ewing and Charles Oakley. He decked centers in practice. It was all comers. You? You try and mock Jose Calderon. And then Luke Ridnour. And Jerryd Bayless. And Marco Belinelli. All smaller guards. Wow. Such a big man you are.

Or maybe it was all of those first-round flushes in Minnesota. Didn’t exactly carry your team to great heights did you? And yet you still can yell ‘choke’ at someone? You may have forgotten, but we haven’t.

Hey, good for you. You were on a team with 3 Hall of Famers and won a championship. Bark, bark, bark. Superbad. We get it already. And we know who you are. So sit down, shut up and show some respect for the opponent. You know, the young team in red that has been mostly beating your team up and down the court, when they have no business doing it.


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Stop being so bitter. The Celtics are better. There's no question about it. The only reason it was the close is because Ray Allen didn't show up in the first game. And when he showed up like we needed him to (51 pts), no one else did. The bottom line is, we havent had KG for half the year and we are still the number 2 seed and we still beat you and are onto the second round. I understand your upset we are better and we won, just "grow up" and take the loss like a man. And brad miller is a clown. He absolutely choked missing that free throw. Dont say he had rubber legs because he didn't play nearly as much minutes as any starter on the Celtics.

Guess who one ppl, it was a good series to watch and both sides were giving it to one another so suck it up... you saw just as much trash talk from noah and gordon.

& the bulls responded to they way the celtics played, we got our revenge when jokim and miller gave hard fouls game 7 and when we were yelling crap to house as he shoot! they needed a taste of their own medicine it wasnt as bad as the celtics since game one had their true colors showing!!!

THANK! YOU!!!! I AGREE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT NO RESPECT FOR THE CELTICs like i once did, such dirty unfair playing, people are saying that miller should have sucked it up BUT HOW BOUT YOU GET YOUR TOOTH KNOCKED OUT & TRY SHOOTING A FREE THROW! people are so blind

So what your saying is that you even didn't believe in your little bulls team... way to be a true fan.

Yeah if KG is dirty, Noah is your favorite WWII dictator. I love how he can tackle, throw, drop, closeline, w/e you like Rondo and not get a T or a flagrant foul (Rondo was in middair). Then minutes later Noah is "hit hard" and turns into the biggest baby ever.

Have fun with Noah.

Bulls: No Ring This Decade, Still No Class. Surely there will be a post coming about the classless Bulls yelling at anyone trying to shoot on their side, right?

Celts win, Bulls lose...too bad

Hey Zoner and all you other Chi-Towners:

How's Boston's Ass Taste?

HAHA Get em a Body Bag Yeah!!!!!

Zoner,

your an idiot. you wanna talk about class? everytime the celtics take a shot on the bulls side of the court they gotta yell shit and yet eddie house still knocks down the 3.

Better luck next year, champs are movin on baby

wow--a box of tissue for this guy please...

If you were on the sidelines in that situation you would have done the same exact thing. It's good to see that in a league of self centered and selfish individuals that there is someone who actually seems to truly have a passion for the game. KG is probably killing himself over not being able to play in this series, because obviously you would have no chance of beating the Celtics if he did play. Rondo had no intention of hurting Miller, or playing dirty. He was just trying to have a hard foul that would prevent Miller from an easy bucket, the same thing any player on the Bullls would have done. The fact that you are complaining over this is sad seeing as how Miller is a beast compared to Rondo. That being said, Brad Miller is a bigger punk than KG ever was or will be. The way he laughed when Ray Allen fouled out, and continued laughing at the fans and officials the rest of the game was terribly unsportsmanlike itself. Instead of being a real man and stepping up in the clutch to hit those FTs he instead did choke, and instead of taking responsibility for his mistake he tried to pretend the pain in his mouth was somehow effecting his ability to shoot free throws. Maybe Ben Gordon shouldn't be grabing at his crotch after his big shots either. Have fun trying to win a championship with an incredibly poor man's Kobe Bryant, who's smaller and incredibly less inefficient.

The post has nothing to do with the series. And I'd say the Celts fans have lent plenty of ridiculous comments as well.

I cant wait until the bulls get clobbered tonight so you idiot bulls fans can stop posting absolutely ridiculous comments.

What an awfully written piece of crap this was. Aaron Gray has earned respect? The Bulls have a moral victory in this series? Garnett feeling inferior?

@Larry

Series was tied 2-2, it was not a win or go home game, and look at the video again he did not have a chance to get to that ball. A free throw seems really easy to sink right? So why do a lot of guys miss it? Pressure must be one of the reason right? I mean Pierce missed one at first game that could have won it for them. Now how about a player who faces the same pressure, a bigger one in fact since it could turn the series to their favor, then add the fact that he was recently hit in the face with limited time to recover, seems a little more hard to hit those free throws.

I would give Rondo the benefit of the doubt there that he meant no harm. Although the throw down he did to Kirk awhile ago was really uncalled for.

I won't contest the Pierce proclaiming thing since I'm not that sure of the source, unless someone can back me up on it, I would take your word for it.

No i'm saying that in the regular season rondo doesnt make that foul because it isn't win or go home, he wouldnt have even gone up for it, but in the playoffs its a different ball game, you see a guy with an open lane you try your hardest to stop him, he went up for the ball and was half a step late and you can't exactly stop yourself in mid air. In a physical game where there are no easy baskets at anytime you see fouls like that all game long, if that play opened the game you wouldn't hear fans yelling for it to be a flagrant that would have just been a good hard foul to get your team up for the game, just because the game was on the line and miller couldn't get it done at the stripe it was made a cop out for a team that couldn't hold a double digit lead to the thinnest team in the playoffs. And despite what you all might think paul pierce never proclaimed to be the best in the world.

@Larry

Are you saying that because it was a playoff game and an important one that calls should be that different? I mean I get it if you are talking about touch fouls and such, but that foul was not a touch foul. It should have been flagrant 1 since he did not make a play for the ball, contact was made above the shoulder, but there was no real intention to hurt, if there was then it's flagrant 2, and Miller managed to land on 2 feet because of his frame, if that act was done to a guard that guard most likely will not land on their 2 feet.

By the way I think it was last year that Pierce claimed he was the best player in the world. It was an interview by a spanish paper or something I'm not that sure. He could have been kidding, but I'm not sure about that either.

it was also a joke ray allen fouled out and kg killed za za pachulia

wah wah wah that's all i hear. what about the other game when two of the refs were seen leaving with their family members all clad in bulls gear. what about all the non-calls the refs [didnt] call in game 4 to allow you guys to tie it up. that stupid ticky tack foul on paul pierce to boot. act like the bulls are the epitome of class. *gag*

Hey ChiTown - Don't hate, appreciate!! City of Champs - Celtics, Red Sox, Patriots and now the Bruins this year...

@Joe B.

I don't think that KG yelling at Bulls players is that big of a deal, it does not affect the game (at least not in my observation). Although the thing that gets to me, and I guess to some other fans, is that he talks trash in the bench, how can you back up your talk from there? I get what your saying that if he was playing the series would be over, and I would not mind at all how much trash he talks as long as he is playing and backing up his trash talk.

I agree with you that this is a great series and I hope it goes the full distance of 7 games.

Cudnt agree wit u more Joe. Der is still ball left 2 b played and lets hope its as dope as the last games been. Surry I gots to dumb it down, but we have ignant people trying to participate. Hey pocket change, go back to school and get the piece of paper that says D I P L O M A. Or did your inkjet run dry and you cudnt print urs out? Zoner, good post and lets have a good game tonight, Bulls in 7, sorry Joe

what causes me to be ignorant brocket? because u dont know wut the word ignorant means and that i was actually right..please describe in detail wut was wrong with my post? nothing..and yes u just got schooled by a kid one year removed from high school

When you say stuff like he's a pussy for not playing and he's a fake tough guy (unlike Gordon, who's from the mean streets of Mount Vernon, LOL) and saying the Celtics have 'already lost', it's a hater piece. You're looking at this the wrong way. If KG were on the floor, this series would've been over by now. KG knows this. The Bulls know this. Yet KG still has to watch Gordon show his ass every night. Then he watches Gordon's team gag away an 11-point fourth quarter lead. If you'd be able to handle all of that without getting a little bit boisterous, you're a better person than me. But I understand where KG is coming from. And once again, this is a gigantic distraction. You guys have to save your season tonight, and yet Bulls fans are still crying about KG yelling at our sad little Bulls!

Both teams have played a great series, and both teams have committed some minor transgressions. Let's enjoy Game 6 and stop being so dramatic about the peripheral stuff, because there's great basketball being played.

Joe-

Gordon didn't do it after every shot and I already condemned that action. And even if I hadn't yours is a strawman argument.

KG has perpetuated this type of behavior. If he was playing any other team and did the same stuff I'd still write about it, just on my other site.

Is it really a 'hater' piece to call out someone's bad actions?

Ali, nothing racist about the post, simply pointing out attitudes. T-money, you speak as if you just came out of high school yourself. Due to that fact, I have nothing to say to someone as obviously ignorant and useless as you. I would use some other terminology, but I respect this mans post and I fear you may not know how to read or where to find a dictionary which you desperately need.

zoner -

You seem to be very levelheaded in the comments, so what gives with the overreactive hater piece to begin with? Any team that has Ben Gordon grabbing his dick and making hand gestures after every shot forfeits the right to bitch about an opponent being 'classless'. I understand, it hurts when your team gags away an 11-point fourth quarter lead that would've ended the series. But stop. The shit I've read from Bulls fans the last few days is borderline hysterical. The refs are out to get you in a road game where you shot EIGHT MORE FREE THROWS than the home team. KG's classless for getting in Gordon's face after all the clown shit Gordon's done in this series blows up in his face. There's nothing wrong with disliking the other team, but posts like these are nothing more than ways to distract yourselves from the shortcomings of your team. I hated when Gordon showed his ass so much in Game 4, but it wasn't the first thing I complained about after the game. I was mad that the Celtics lost.

Calling a winning team 'classless' is the refrain of the perpetual loser. Get mad, hate the Celtics all you want, but don't make it sound like they're the ones who fucked up when they win.

Using the word corny -1

And so what if he did get into it with those bigger dudes? Does that really take away from the fact that he likes to pick on small guards?

Bonk has clearly been bonked in the head. KG did not mix it up with those guys. He did not touch them. He jawed that is all. He ran like a puss when McDyss was going to whip his ass. My facts are not wrong. You are not willing to face the facts. KG is a bitch. He only gets really ugly with people he is sure he can beat physically. Look at the videos. He has not done shit with any guy close to his size. That is what makes Peeler's bust in his face all the better.

@ Dano & the other uneducated big-mouths who are insisting that KG only gets into it with little or subpar guys....

BULLSH!T

He has gotten into it with:
Amare
Chris Bosh
Tim Duncan
Pryzbilla
Brad Miller
Antonio McDyess
Nene

...and those are just the ones coming to me off the top of my head. He is passionate, and was his team's leading man & face of the franchise for a decade, so of course he has gotten into it with a number of guys.

Yall need to focus on the game you are about to lose tonight instead of crying about KG. Seems so corny when you have a huge game 6 coming up. Especially when your facts are wrong and exaggerated.

brocket77 may be the biggest tool i have ever encountered next to this zoner guy.... i mean how do u have the balls to call it the glory days of david robinson when most of the trash talkers today played during david robinson's era.. and he was in the navy not the marines get ur facts straight (hence the nickname the admiral) and there has ALWAYS been trash talkers in the nba i am a celtics fan and i know that larry bird was probably one of the biggest trash talkers of all time but if u can back it up then u cant gonna knock a guy for trash talkin..and how could u possibly say kg hasnt changed the game? he was the first guy in the modern era to come straight out of high school and get drafted in the first round which paved the road for guys like kobe,t-mac, and countless other guys that came straight out of highschool to become nba stars... u may have the most unintelligent post i have ever seen right up there with zoner who i dont even have to explain everything wrong with this blog because the other 80 posts have explained it for me

I didn't like Gordon's move at all, but I also think there is a difference between celebrating and berating. Also, Girdon did his gesture to no one in particular. KG chose to taunt several different Bulls.

No one is defending Gordon. At least I am not. I AM attacking KG. KG has a long history of being a bitch-ass-punk. He is the cheap shot king. He only mixes it up with smaller guys. And there is no denying that. And one smaller guy called his bluff and punched him in the mouth. I have zero respect for guys that yell from the bench and make tough guy faces. KG would NEVER pull his tough guy act with Lebron or another guy even close to his size. I would love to see Gordon throw down with him. He would DESTROY Garnett.

I think it is pretty funny how you guys get on KG. Ben Gordon grabing his balls and putting up that stupid 3 sigh...I would be barking also...

Well that last comment was absolutely racist and untrue. You are a bunch of clowns on this site. Thank God I'm not a Bulls fan, so I don't have to subject myself to such clown-talk on a daily basis.

Jeff, If I was 7 ft tall I would be highly coveted too. I have never been impressed with the likes of Shaq, Yao, KG...if you are that tall you should be expected to be good. I was more impressed with Avery Johnson, Jaso Kidd, Steve Nash...true athletes that play a big mans game and play it with absolute class. I am not a celtics fan OR bulls fan, but the players and theiur constant ghetto interpretation of this great game are whats contributing to my pull away from the game. I am sick and damn tired of the mouthed profanities, the puffed out bad ass lips (which make him look absolutely rediculous by the way), and the stare downs. What ever happened to making a great play and running back to play defense/offense? I get that passion hits sometimes, but is shouldnt demoralize the game constantly. I miss the days of David Robinson. He was and will always be the classiest big man. Maybe thats because he was taught respect and dignity in the Marines. Now we take ghetto superstars like KG, JR Smith, and Pierce and expect them to play like adults. You can take the player out of the ghetto and pay them millions of dollars for playing a GAME, but you cannot take the ghetto trash out of the player. I was not saying that KG's game was trash, I was saying the person was trash. Motumbo would shake his finger at you, PLAYFULLY, but I dont recall him talking shit to Mugsy Bogues. But once again, thats the difference in the game now, disrespect for your opponent. Even Sir Charles had respect for the Bad Boys in Detroit, even though everyone hated them. But they played the game hard, WITH PASSSION, and left it at that. There will always be cheap shots and new ways to get under your opponents skin, but lets keep in mind that this is at the end of the day just a game. A game that used to be played by people who respected it and the fans. Now it is comprised of a bunch of gangsters chasing the green and playing ghetto street ball. And I am sorry, but none of these guys deserve to be in the hall of fame. They have won one championship, thats it. They did not change the game, they did not revive their respected franchises the way LeBron has with the Cavs or Paul with the Hornets. They were all above average perrenial non winners who came together for one year to win a championship. Where is the amazing in that?? The Hall is for people like Jordan, Kobe, Duncan, Bird, Magic...apparently now its open enrollment. The presence of any of those guys would absolutely diminish the quality of the Hall of Fame. Period.

I totally agree on this post. The Celtics are a bunch of hoods. KG has zero class. I am NOT a bulls fan either. KG is so much talk and tough guy grimaces that I laugh at him. Now I want to see someone Anthony Peeler his face again. KG is tough when it a smaller guy but I guarantee you Gordon would kick the shit out him. No question. It would not even be close. I would love to see that. Tear one of those cute earings out of his ear too.

Ali-

We've been talking about the games here all series long. It's a hot topic because people are talking about it and have been talking about how he's morphed into a jerk all year.

And I do appreciate KG's intensity. Acting like an idiot is another story.

And since you challenged my ability to think, you might want to learn the difference between objectivity and subjectivity. You might also want to learn how to spell too.

After reading all these comments, I have a newfound disrespect for Bulls fan. You guys either have no idea what you are talking about, or are making mountains out of molehills. Jo Noah, Ty Thomas, & Brad Miller are all emotional, hot-headed big men. So I would think you could appreciate KG's intensity. But I guess since he wears the other teams jersey you don't look at it subjectively. Ben Gordon grabbing his nuts is classy. Brad Miller cheapshotting anyone around anytime he can is classy. Why is this the hot topic on your board when your team has its biggest playoff game in several years tonight? Clearly you have conceeded defeat. You guys don't make it a habit to think, do you?

I think everyone here needs to stop complaining about borderline calls like the one the other night and worry about how great this series has been. If you look at the series as a whole everything has evened out. Honestly, by complaining like this, all you chicago fans out there are taking away from the enjoyment that has come from this FIRST ROUND matchup.

Zoner, at least you could admit that you were wrong about KG not playing because he isn't tough, that really isn't that fair. But are any of the commenters so far actually literate?
I definately agree that KG could show some more class, and if he is going to taunt it would be nice to see him picking on another tough guy. (I would LOVE to see him start trash-talking Ron Artest!)
But I don't know if you can dismiss his, Ray's and Pierce's careers before they came together because they didn't have much success. They were on some appallingly bad teams.
Also, I know that the comment regarding this was some time ago, but the reason the Bulls didn't double Pierce was that they couldn't risk giving up an easy layup. That is the beauty of Pierce isolating at the top of the key; he can see any extra defenders coming easily and can pick them apart with a simple pass.

tanat-

The one thing I would change about the article is that line about him not playing. I know he would be out there if he could. No doubt about it.

@tanat-0s

I'm with you, I am not questioning KG's toughness, injuries though happen to a lot of players and it is the way they handle it that matters, I am particularly impressed at how Grant Hill handled his situation, no one can deny that his potential was sky-high until he had that nagging ankle injury. It is not a recent incident that KG has been trash talking, it is part of the game in some way, what I am really against is trash talking while your in the bench, because there is no way to back-up that talk, when he was playing I was ok with him trash talking, he could easily back it up, when he plays he is often great, but on the bench it's another thing.

Compaining about KG getting in everybody's faces I can understand, although I think trash-talking is a part of the game. But all that questioning of KG's toughness and saying that MJ would have played with a bone spur is pure loser talk and sour grapes.
1) It's not only a bone spur that prevents KG from playing, he's also has a strained tendon.
2) Garnett is an iron man, in his 14 years of playing he averaged 75.4 games per season. That's insane durability. He's as tough as they come. If he could, he would have played. Period.

"Missing a free though to tie a game with seconds remaining is the ultimate choke"

A bit off topic, I would not say the it is the ultimate choke, sure it would be considered a choke but I would say that the ultimate choke would be missing a free throw to win the game and we all know that has happened in this series, call it an excuse but I expect more from a star player, the self proclaimed best in the NBA, to make a game winning free throw than from a role player like Brad Miller.

On topic though, I'm ok with players talking trash, that is if they are actually playing, those who said that Bird and Jordan talks trash, you are right they do that but they back it up with their play, not from the bench. Don't tell me it's not his fault (KG) that he could not play, blame the injury? It is his body, unless his injury was inflicted by someone else, then I would accept that.

Oh and for those that would say that KG's trash talking is his way of motivating his team mates then why did he choose to watch from the locker room in game one instead of "motivating" his team mates. I'm sure the criticisms he received from that act affected his choice on staying on the Celtics bench from then on.

"Missing a free throw is not choking" hahahahaha

Series aside for a second, do you genuinely believe what you just said? Missing a free though to tie a game with seconds remaining is the ultimate choke? Its up their with eminem's choke in 8 mile!

Be realistic! It would get you further in life. Dont make excuses cuz the only thing worse than a looser is one that makes excuses for his loss

Hey zoner, this was a really good read. I'm sorry so many of your readers are as unintelligent as they have portrayed themselves as here. I don't know why people are even bringing up whether it was a flagrant or not. When I flipped around the networks today, it was pretty unanimous that it was a flagrant. You know it's bad when ESPN, who absolutely adore the celtics and any other team from boston, are saying that it was a flagrant. Imagine if the roles were reversed and brad miller punched rondo in the face with 4 seconds left...

KG is just bitter because 1. they/he wont be winning a ring 2. he has to sit on the bench esp during the play offs. KG has always been a hater even to that one announcer..i think it was valentine's day. look it up he spent a good like 3 minutes telling the announcer to burn his suit (yeah it was pretty ugly but still).

What are you talking about? The guy's been barking nonsense at other players for years.

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